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в какой степени уровень общего трагизма существования зависит от внешних факторов и образа жизни, а в какой - от внутренних settings.

Date: 13/05/2003 08:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eutrapelia.livejournal.com
Ага, я вчера ко всем приставала с вопросом - когда и кого трудности озлобляют, и когда делают мягче и добрей? Никто не ответил.

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Date: 13/05/2003 09:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 3d-object.livejournal.com
Тут, наверное, так:
-есть люди, которых трудности делают мягче и добрей или озлобляют,
-и есть люди, на которых трудности не влияют.

на личном опыте

Date: 13/05/2003 09:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dagaz.livejournal.com
от внешних факторов намного больше
разобраться с внутренней жаждой пострадать можно один раз, а вот внешние факторы накапливаются регулярно.

Re: на личном опыте

Date: 13/05/2003 09:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 3d-object.livejournal.com
А вот у меня на личном опыте - намного меньше.
Я не говорю о повседневных/рутинных бедах, а именно в неком эпическом смысле о трагизме существования, как его Бродский понимал, например.
Похоже, что уровень этого эпического трагизма вообще не зависит от внешних обстоятельств.

Date: 13/05/2003 09:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dagaz.livejournal.com
у каждого свой личный опыт :)

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как можно!

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Сподвигла...

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Re: на личном опыте

Date: 07/06/2003 11:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kasya.livejournal.com
Ох, как ты прав, как прав! За очень малым, возможно, исключением. Запороговые, скажем, ситуации не оставляют человеку выбора - быть ему оптимистом или там, скажем, не быть. Ну, то есть прищемить все-таки может.

Да, конечно...

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Date: 13/05/2003 09:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] corvalol.livejournal.com
10%/90% соответственно, имхо.

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Date: 13/05/2003 09:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 3d-object.livejournal.com
Где-то так, наверное.

Date: 13/05/2003 09:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tuya.livejournal.com
mne hochetsya srazu skazat', chto v osnovnom ot vnutrennej. no mne hochetsya tak skazat', potomu chto net sil'nyh prichin vovlekat' vneshnjuju. Nu i u mnogih, kto menya okruzhajet - u nih tozhe takih prichin malo. Dazhe esli kazhetsya, chto mnogo.
Odnako byvajet inache... (vspomnila svoju pojezdku v afriku, naprimer)
T.e., navernoje, pravil'no budet tak: tam, gde est' bol'shoj tragizm, a vneshnije faktory "ok", tam 20-80. A tam gde vneshnije faktory uzhasny sovershenno, tam 70-30.
Idyot? :))

Торг здесь неуместен... :-)

Date: 13/05/2003 11:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 3d-object.livejournal.com
Я бы сказал, 10-90 и 60-40, но, наверное, это субъективно.

Date: 13/05/2003 10:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dorimena.livejournal.com
1 к 9,внутренние settings превалируют

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Date: 13/05/2003 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 3d-object.livejournal.com
Как интересно, - это уже третье такое мнение, включая меня.
Наверное, это близко к объективной истине. Если она есть.

Date: 13/05/2003 11:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sooie.livejournal.com
а включая мое неопубликованное - четвертое

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Даже завидно.

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Про орешки.

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ничего не понимаю!!

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Джунгли :)

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Проверенно жизненным опытом.:)

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Date: 13/05/2003 11:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-treasure-169.livejournal.com
У меня внутренние settings преобладают. Причём, с годами научилась по полочкам раскладывать, что когда и где мне помешало. Но бороться с этим очень тяжело. :-)

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Date: 13/05/2003 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 3d-object.livejournal.com
Интересно, что они не меняются с годами, эти настройки. В течение семи лет не остается ни одной клетки в теле той же, а settings, похоже, с ранней юности и до старости те же.

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Date: 14/05/2003 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yx.livejournal.com
Как раз в той степени, в которой во внутренних settings фигурируют внешние факторы

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Date: 14/05/2003 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 3d-object.livejournal.com
А они в них вообще не фигурируют.

Date: 14/05/2003 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yx.livejournal.com
не верю. Или у тебя трагизм нулевой

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а что на счет распития пива? я всё ещё в ТА, телефон указат в моём ж...

Пак.

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From: [identity profile] 3d-object.livejournal.com
Работаю, блин, завтра нужно готовое посылать. Сижу, не отрываясь. А ты что, все с тех пор в Т.-А.? :-)

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Date: 14/05/2003 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yemperor.livejournal.com
Конечно, зависит от человека... Мне кажется, внутренние settings всегда значат гораздо больше, чем внешние. А образ жизни вообще слабо влияет.

Ведь всё познаётся в сравнении. В том числе и личный "общий трагизм".

Особенно это заметно при отсутствии резких внешних факторов, хотя последние могут всё перевернуть в миг.

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Date: 15/05/2003 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 3d-object.livejournal.com
Мне кажется, что не могут. Глубинный уровень общего трагизма, мне кажется, принадлежит человеку и в очень-очень малой степени зависит от среды.

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From: [identity profile] yemperor.livejournal.com - Date: 15/05/2003 04:47 am (UTC) - Expand

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From: [identity profile] 3d-object.livejournal.com - Date: 15/05/2003 04:50 am (UTC) - Expand

Да, пожалуй

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